Ella al-Shamahi, an evolutionary biologist, explores dangerous regions to uncover human origins through fossil discoveries. Her adventurous work mirrors the spirit of both Charles Darwin and Indiana Jones. Her recent television series, "Human," chronicles early human global expansion. This podcast episode features an interview with Ella. She details her personal journey of embracing evolutionary beliefs, including the sacrifices involved. The episode acknowledges special contributions from Misha Euceph and Hamza Syed. Various individuals contributed to this episode's reporting, production, and fact-checking. The episode cites the BBC/PBS show "Human" featuring Ella. Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to a newsletter for additional content and updates. Funding for the podcast comes from listener support and grants from foundations.